{"id":566,"date":"2014-06-04T14:27:05","date_gmt":"2014-06-04T13:27:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/?p=566"},"modified":"2019-01-24T03:27:30","modified_gmt":"2019-01-24T02:27:30","slug":"the-sixth-note-dealing-with-irrational-time-signatures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/2014\/06\/04\/the-sixth-note-dealing-with-irrational-time-signatures\/","title":{"rendered":"The sixth-note: Dealing with irrational time signatures"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div data-carousel-extra='{\"blog_id\":1,\"permalink\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.jasonalder.com\\\/blog\\\/2014\\\/06\\\/04\\\/the-sixth-note-dealing-with-irrational-time-signatures\\\/\"}' class=\"tiled-gallery type-rectangular\" data-original-width=\"843\"><div class=\"gallery-row\" style=\"width: 838px; height: 243px;\"><div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" style=\"width: 355px; height: 247px;\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/2014\/06\/04\/the-sixth-note-dealing-with-irrational-time-signatures\/6-4-bar\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"567\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/6-4-bar.png\" data-orig-size=\"693,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6-4 bar\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/6-4-bar-300x208.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/6-4-bar.png\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/6-4-bar-351x243.png\" width=\"351\" height=\"243\" align=\"left\" title=\"6-4 bar\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" style=\"width: 483px; height: 247px;\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/2014\/06\/04\/the-sixth-note-dealing-with-irrational-time-signatures\/5-6\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"568\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/5-6.png\" data-orig-size=\"579,294\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"5-6\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/5-6-300x152.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/5-6.png\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/5-6-479x243.png\" width=\"479\" height=\"243\" align=\"left\" title=\"5-6\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p class=\"p1\">Recently a friend posted a photo on Facebook of a bar of music she encountered and wasn&#8217;t sure how to count it. It was a bar of 4\/6, and later in the discussion she posted&nbsp;another one of 5\/6. This thread took a lot of directions, such as why the composer would write this, is there a better way to write it, what performance implications and psychological effects&nbsp;notation&nbsp;has, and how to actually count the bars in question. While all points are very valid and interesting discussions, I want to focus on the last one. How does one actually count a 4\/6 or 5\/6 bar? The problem is that in Western music, we&#8217;re subject to thinking of everything in duples of four- 4\/4, 2\/2, 6\/8- but never (at least not until the later 20th century) in &#8220;irrational&#8221; time signatures. So this post will discuss how to deal with this.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\">Back to basics\u2026<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\">What does a 4\/4 bar mean? Simply put, it means the quarter note gets the pulse (the bottom number), and there&#8217;s four&nbsp;of them in the bar (the top number), just as in a 3\/4 bar the quarter note is still the pulse, but we only have three&nbsp;in the bar. But why is a quarter note called such? What is it a quarter of? And likewise for a half note, eighth note, sixteenth note? What are all of these subdivisions fractions of? A whole note, naturally. This is our reference for time signatures in Western music. We divide the whole note into fractions, and then determine how many of these subdivisions are in each bar.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">So what does having a 6 in the bottom mean? Logically, the whole note is&nbsp;subdivided into 6 parts. To&nbsp;determine what the length of a sixth note is, the value of the whole note remains constant, and therefore 4\/4 = 6\/6. We have to play 6 sixth notes in the same space of time that we would play 4 quarter notes. This creates a 6:4 ratio, or 2 x 3:2. So a bar of 4\/6 would be 3 notes in the space of 2 quarter notes (quarter-note triplets), plus one more note of the&nbsp;triplet, and a bar of 5\/6 would be 3:2 plus 2 more of the triplet.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_573\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-573\" style=\"width: 1188px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-573 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4.png\" alt=\"tisraj4\" width=\"1188\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4.png 1188w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4-300x91.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4-1024x312.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4-900x274.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1188px) 100vw, 1188px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-573\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">4\/4 = 6\/6. Top line = quarter notes in 4\/4. Middle line = quarter-notes subdivided into sextuplets in 4\/4, grouped in 4s. Bottom line = the beats of a 6\/6 bar fall at the beginning of each grouping of 4 of the sextuplets.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p1\">In theory this seems fairly straight forward, but the practical application is problematic. Feeling three against two&nbsp;isn&#8217;t very difficult, as this is something Western musicians more regularly do, but it&#8217;s the extra notes that cause the problems.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The way to approach the correct timing is to subdivide the quarter-note&nbsp;of&nbsp;4\/4 into sextuplets and accent groups of four. This creates six accents within the bar, thus giving&nbsp;a bar of 6\/6. So for a bar of 4\/6, you should take the first four of these, and where the fifth would land is the downbeat of the following measure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">In this recording I demonstrate how this works.&nbsp;First I begin with sextuplets of a 4\/4 bar- phrased as <em>TA-ka-di-mi-ta-ka<\/em>. Then keeping the same speed of the sextuplet, I phrase it in groups of four as <em>TA-ka-di-mi<\/em>, keeping the quarter-note pulse of a 4\/4 bar for reference.&nbsp;There are six of these <em>TA-ka-di-mi<\/em>&#8216;s per four clicks, so where each of the&nbsp;<em>TA<\/em>&#8216;s fall are the six beats of a 6\/6 bar. I then demonstrate a 4\/6 and 5\/6 bar, alternating between with- and without the subdivisions.<\/p>\n<p><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-566-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisra2j43.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisra2j43.mp3\">https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisra2j43.mp3<\/a><\/audio><br \/>\n<span id=\"m79510396\">Erectile dysfunction is very common among men who are under nitrates, alpha-blocker and antidepressants, and who are known case of allergic to Sildenafil Citrate. <a href=\"http:\/\/robertrobb.com\/mccain-and-flake-logroll-for-copper\/\">viagra without prescription<\/a> This buy cheap levitra <a href=\"http:\/\/robertrobb.com\/of-rinos-and-the-popes-of-conservatism\/\">http:\/\/robertrobb.com\/of-rinos-and-the-popes-of-conservatism\/<\/a> issue does not permit the men to achieve a penile erection that is vital in regulating emotions. &#8211; Brain Inflammation Inflammation, often present with autoimmune disorders such as diabetes, triggers the body&#8217;s immune system response. Regardless of the mind-bogglingwell being <a href=\"http:\/\/robertrobb.com\/2019\/03\/\">cheapest price for sildenafil<\/a>  and sleepbenefits of HGH, this optionis just not cost-effective or possiblefor most. One of the most common problems affecting a man&#8217;s  <a href=\"http:\/\/robertrobb.com\/why-the-mueller-report-wont-have-the-calming-effect-it-should\/\">viagra on line pharmacy<\/a> sexual health is smoking. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">In case it helps to visualize how this relationship works, I&#8217;ve made this video to accompany it:<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"843\" height=\"474\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GwF7EAKH7QE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">As you can see in the image, a 4\/6 bar is then 2+2\/3 beats of a quarter-note pulse, and 5\/6 is 3+1\/3 beats of quarter-notes.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_581\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-581\" style=\"width: 1096px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-581 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6.png\" alt=\"tisraj4_4-6\" width=\"1096\" height=\"397\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6.png 1096w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6-300x109.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6-1024x371.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_4-6-900x326.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1096px) 100vw, 1096px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-581\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">4\/6 = 2-2\/3 \/ 4<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_580\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-580\" style=\"width: 1105px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-580 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6.png\" alt=\"tisraj4_5-6\" width=\"1105\" height=\"396\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6.png 1105w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6-300x108.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6-1024x367.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.jasonalder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/tisraj4_5-6-900x323.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1105px) 100vw, 1105px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-580\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">5\/6 = 3-1\/3 \/ 4<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p1\">This video is an exercise I created switching between 4\/4, 5\/8, 4\/6, and 5\/6.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"843\" height=\"474\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PRy-duOaE7c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"p1\">Need help?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\">This post is the first of a series I&#8217;ve been wanting to start, dealing with complex rhythms. I plan to explain the basic concepts more thoroughly and demonstrate exercises for achieving rhythmical precision, but would also like to analyze &#8220;real-world&#8221; pieces and how to approach them. These techniques make things you see in the music of Carter, Ferneyhough, Ligeti, Xenakis, etc., such as polyrhythms, polypulses, ratios, irrational time signatures, odd-meters, odd-subdivisions, and embedded tuplets much easier to understand and perform. If you encounter a piece with a rhythm you can&#8217;t work out, please comment or email me!<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I&#8217;m also available to give&nbsp;workshops in this material for any educators interested. 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